The Birthday Massacre on "What The..."

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July 19, 2004

Plays "Happy Birthday"
The Thorn: That was "Happy Birthday" by the Birthday Massacre. You're listening to 89.1FM, CHUO 89.1FM's "What The...". I'm the Thorn. I'm going to be by your side for the next 85 minutes, and we're doing a feature on The Birthday Massacre today. And, the Birthday Massacre's releasing an EP tomorrow called Violet, and they were kind enough to join us on the show today. We've got Chibi.
Chibi: Hello.
The Thorn: ...and Michael on the line right now.
Michael: Hello.
The Thorn: We're going to be playing a bunch of tracks from Nothing & Nowhere, which is their last album, and we'll also play tracks from their new EP. So...who is the Birthday Massacre?
Chibi: There's me, who sings; there's Michael, who plays lead guitar; there's Rainbow, who does our sequencing & rhythm guitar; there is J.Aslan, who plays bass; there is Adm, who does our live keys; and Rhim who does our live drums.
The Thorn: Cool! And, the Birthday Massacre, as a band, or as a concept, who are they then?
Chibi: ...I'll let you take this one.
Michael: Okay...uh...
The Thorn: Michael will be doing the really tough questions.
Chibi: Yeah. If you don't mind...
Michael: This is a really philosophical, introspective question
The Thorn: Right.
Michael: Okay...um...that's a Rainbow question for sure. Uh...
Chibi: How about, would you like me to answer?
Michael: Yeah, you answer. Because I just know Rainbow's going to be listening to this and...ugh...
Chibi: Okay, the Birthday Massacre, as a group, I would say that we're a bunch of people who really like to create. We're a bunch of people who really like music. We really like art. We all have creative projects that we like to do in our own free time, and we all really liked music when we were growing up. And, so, we've tried to...we've always kind of held onto that whether it was heavier music or kind of that retro dancy-kind of music. Like, we all have that interest in that kind of thing since we were kids, and, so, we're all kind of trying to bring that type of music and the type of music we used to listen to when we were young and, you know, kind of more contemporary kind of liking the stuff that we did when we were younger, and being able to make music that kind of reflects that, and, also, it goes more than that with things like the website that we created and things like that. Like, we all really liked horror movies; we all really liked cartoons, and all that kind of stuff. I think we're really more, you know, like we try to combine being the age we are now and kind of reminiscing on our childhoods and stuff like that. And trying to just kind of mix all of that together. I think, you know, we'd like to have our music have a feeling to it, and make people kind of, I don't know, maybe envision things. A lot of this stuff has kind of a dreamy feeling to it.
The Thorn: I don't know if you'd like to do a brief history, maybe, of the band, or...just to give...
Michael: Yeah, we would have to keep that pretty brief, I think. Uh, we started out in London, Ontario, and, um, we met through college. And, uh, at that time, had a band called Imagica. So, we played in London, and, um, put out just like a small sort of single-release that had, like, a couple of songs on it. And, you know, people were really responsive to it, so we all agreed to move to Toronto to try to give the band a good shot. And, uh, yeah, we had to change our name because another band in the states, I don't know, has this name, so rather than get into any kind of legal trouble, we changed the name to the Birthday Massacre.
The Thorn: Oh, yeah, that's cool, so where did you get the name originally? Like, who came up with the name, and why specifically that name?
Michael: What...Imagica? Or...
The Thorn: Yeah, Imagica.
Michael: Um...well, it is, we did get it from a [name] book, and we went with that because we thought the name really sums up the music really well because the book has a very... I mean, it's a fantasy book, and that's kind of the vibe our music has, but the book had lots of really dark elements mixed in with the fantasy, and it kind of made something new. And that's what we try to do with the music, and we thought the name really tied it all together.
Chibi: One of the reasons we decided to call ourselves the Birthday Massacre was to just to kind of have that contrasting imagery of, like, a birthday party cute and fun, and then kind of like a this kind of dark scary slasher-movie kind of thing, like, you know?
The Thorn: Absolutely. Actually, you know, that's the kind of thing that's great about the music as well is that contrast because, oftentimes, you'll have some really, really sort of sweet-synth coming in, and then you'll have the guitars that come in and sort of contrast. And, then, the same thing with your vocals. You'll have these sweet vocals, and then you'll just go really creepy, you know? And it's just brilliant...the mix works really, really well. You know, in the context of your music, in any case, I don't know how to refer to it with everyone else...
Michael: Yeah, there is a duality to it that's sort of, I think, that's the center of what the band's all about.
The Thorn: I guess we should probably play some music...
Michael: Okay.
The Thorn: How are you guys with starting off with "Promise Me"?
Chibi: That's cool.
The Thorn: Yeah, sure, so, we'll do that, and I guess we'll be back with a little more.
Plays "Promise Me" & "Night Time"
The Thorn: And, so, that was "Night Time" by Imagica, and we're back with The Birthday Massacre, who were once a band called Imagica. Do you still play some of the older stuff like Imagica, you know, in your sets or...
Michael: I think the only, uh, the only old songs that we still really play are "Happy Birthday", "Horror Show", and, uh, well, actually wait...Just, I think, "Happy Birthday" from the really old stuff before Nothing & Nowhere. Yeah, it's pretty much just in the past.
The Thorn: Are you guys aiming for specific sounds? Like, do you have a sound in mind when you're recording and producing the albums and the material?
Chibi: Again, I think it's like it's kind of we want to strike a sort of a right music that's familiar, in a sense of, again, kind of that "retro" feel to it. But, at the same time, like, we have, I think all of us have sort of a vested interest in heavy music, so we like to combine that right music that we like, and that hopefully others will too because it'll strike a chord with them. Kind of combining styles of, like, sort of like heavy, you know, and then, like, poppy.
The Thorn: Sort of like "Video Kid" and then "Broken".
Chibi: Yeah, exactly! From "Video Kid" to "Broken"...but, to make it all work together, and make it all sound similar so that it doesn't sound like it's from two completely different bands and two completely different genres, but so that it's like combine the genres that we like.
Michael: Yeah, we'll never be able to escape that "heavy" element. We just like it too much.
The Thorn: Don't try to, actually, it works really well. If you go too pop, then, you know, you may not sound quite the same. Um, one thing that really impresses me about "nothing and nowhere", and, I guess, the new EP, is the production. You guys are obviously doing this on your own, and it sounds so good. There's so many layers to the music. And, I guess, I keep wondering, how much time do you guys spend on production as opposed to, like writing and recording?
Chibi: You know what, that would be a Rainbow question because he does so much like basically like, you know, everyone kind of chips in with...what are you laughing about. Rainbow really devotes himself to creating the sound that he likes. He spends a lot of time on things like that. Nothing & Nowhere was done entirely by us on home computers. So, a lot of time was vested into that just personally by us. I don't know, especially that guy.
The Thorn: Because you couldn't tell that it's an indie record. You know, I've heard a lot of independent records, and, sometimes, you know, you can tell, that it's been done on a 4-track. But in your case, it's just like, "wow." I played the EP the other night on my sound system, and even through the surround system, it comes out incredible. It's like, "wow", you know?
Michael: The EP is a different story. We recorded, I'd say, half of it in an actual studio. But, Nothing & Nowhere, we can sort of see the shortcomings of it now. Just because we've done some studio work for the EP. So, we're slightly happier with the EP than we were with Nothing & Nowhere.
Chibi: We're so happy that so many people like Nothing & Nowhere. You know, and that we're just able to kind of have an album now that probably sound-wise now is a bit, maybe a bit, better quality.
The Thorn: So, what I'm thinking of doing right now is playing some more tracks. Um, maybe an older track again, if you don't mind too much. Uh, I was thinking of playing "Remember Me".
Michael: Oh, wow, I forgot about that one.
The Thorn: And, uh, we're going to come back with the new single, "Violet", and maybe we could talk about that.
Plays "Remember Me" and "Violet"
The Thorn: So, that was, "Violet" by The Birthday Massacre, and it's off their new EP, Violet which is coming out tomorrow, and we've got Michael and Chibi from The Birthday Massacre on the show today. Well, do you guys have anything to say about Violet while we're at it?
Michael: Well, it's probably one of my favourite songs that we've done lately. You know, it's just one of the more upbeat songs. And, yeah, uh, Chibi, what do you think about "Violet"?
The Thorn: Why was that specifically chosen for the first single of all the tracks?
Michael: It's a very accessible song. It's not too niche. You know, it's kind of...it's very balanced, so a lot of people can get into that song.
Chibi: Yeah, I think, uh, also we all really like it. I definetly think it's one of the highlight ones for us on the EP. We enjoy playing it live, and we all like the song a lot. Which, it seemed like, if we had to make a choice of something to release first or earlier it would be something that we all liked as well, you know.
The Thorn: Is it difficult to find a middle ground for everyone because, after all, you guys six.
Chibi: Um, I think in terms of, I think we all probably enjoy playing different songs, we all have different songs that we all enjoy playing more than others do. You know, everyone would have their personal favourite or whatever. I think we all also, as a group, have others that we all gravitate towards.
Mike: It's definetly, I mean, it didn't take long for us to agree for "Violet" to be the main song on the record just because we all really like it. I think we all have a personal attachment to it, so you know, it just made sense to have that song made the song represent the new EP.
The Thorn: How difficult is it to market an EP outside a commercial label? It must be really difficult. Although, like, with the internet nowadays, the whole business has really changed. There's a lot more things being done on the internet, downloads and stuff like that. How difficult is it to market something like this at this point.
Chibi: I think it all depends on how you go about it. Obviously, file sharing has affected the amount interest people have in buying cds, and, so, we try to...we've made tracks available from Violet for months. You know, and try to just get interest sort of, and just using the internet as sort of a resource to market yourself and reach a really broad audience is a really thing to use as a promotional tool.
The Thorn: Well, you're off to really good start. Stats show that there's 15,000 unique visitors going on the website.
Chibi: And we do get a lot of people on there.
The Thorn: That's a lot. 15,000 individuals. It's not like one person coming back 15,000 times...
Chibi: That would be me...
The Thorn: It's like 850 people per day, and that's a lot. I approach people on the street in Ottawa, and promoters don't necessarily know your name yet, but fans from across the world know you. There are people as far reaching as Sweden or Finland who know you.
Chibi: I think that has a lot to do with people who like our music. You know, like, a lot of people on the message board and people who catch wind of us do a lot to help. They post flyers to a show coming up somewhere, and we owe a lot of hits to people like those who just really like us and want to help.
Michael: It's word of mouth, basically, that's our whole approach to promoting ourselves. With the internet, it just travels around that much faster.
The Thorn: A lot easier than it would've been than, let's say, 20 years ago.
Chibi: For sure.
The Thorn: The internet works, but you've also done compliations like This is Neogoth, which is a 3 cd-compilation, and you guys had "Video Kid" on there. You guys are with these really cool bands like the Cruxshadows and Razed in Black and Orgy and Fear Cult and stuff like that, and you guys are in there. And people have discovered you on compilations, and I hear you guys hear that all the time on, like, on webpages and message boards and stuff, so that's a really great tool.
Chibi: Yeah, definetly, you know, we've never met any of those bands, so it's like, "Ooo! We got on this CD with this person!?!" You know, "Wow, our name is next to them...that's neat!"
The Thorn: Yeah, it is quite excellent, actually. I was looking at the list earlier today, and I was really impressed with the names on there.
Michael: Yeah, that was a while ago.
The Thorn: It was, but people are still discovering you through it. If you go on The Birthday Massacre's Live Journal page, you have some people say, "Hey! I just discovered this band now because of this compilation!" I've been reading that for months. You know, there's a trickle of people picking up on it, so that's really awesome. In fact, I was thinking of playing "Video Kid" because it's another really accessible song like "Violet", so we should take a station break and play that.
Plays "Video Kid" and "The Neverending Story"
The Thorn: So, that was "The Neverending Story" by The Birthday Massacre. We're here once again with The Birthday Massacre for the whole show, so that's great. They're here until 5pm, and what's the story with "The Neverending Story"? It's a cover, obviously...
Chibi: We wanted to do a cover, and we were all throwing around ideas for a cover. And, "The Neverending Story" is a movie that we all really liked as kids. Again we all really liked it as kids, we really liked "The Neverending Story". And I, oh god, Mike?
Michael: It was sort of a, we really didn't think about that much. Rainbow just sort of started working on it in his room, and, uh, it was just sort of an experiment to see what kind of reaction we would get from doing a cover song. And, on top of that, just another unusual song to cover -- a song from an 80's fantasy movie.
The Thorn: But it works so well in the context of your music and everything! That's the thing, you know, that's why I play it a couple of times on the show and everything.
Chibi: It's something that a lot of people really like, and it's kind of odd because, you know, it's not on any of releases or anything. It's on the internet, but it's not something that we kind of promoted or anything. We've never played it live. It's just a little novelty cover song.
Michael: It was just more like a project in Rainbow's room...
The Thorn: Speaking of childhood memories and stuff, what were your favourite childhood cartoons?
Chibi: Oh man, He-man.
Michael: Transformers, Gi-Joe, Shiraz.
Chibi: And I really liked the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles even though I was probably too old for it.
Michael: Yeah, I was pushing it too.
Chibi: I'm older than Michael is. I was 13, and I had the biggest crush on Raphael.
The Thorn: Did anyone tell you that he was a turtle?
Chibi: It didn't matter to me, to be honest. I just liked his sense of humor.
The Thorn: okay, right.
Chibi: Yeah, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles were big for me. What else, man...
Michael: And then, you know, there's The Smurfs.
Chibi: I was a big Today's Special fan
Michael: I think only Canadians could watch that...
Chibi: Yeah, the Edens center [sp?] in downtown Toronto. I really liked Today's Special. Polkadot Door, another TV Toronto. You know, Mr. Dress-Up, all that stuff. The Friendly Giant, those weren't cartoons, but those were the days, you know. They really don't do that anymore for kids. I don't know what they do for kids.
The Thorn: They make Barney
Chibi: Oh, Barney. You know, Barney's doing his thing...he's all right.
The Thorn: So, what are your all-time favourite video games?
Chibi: Oh man. I'm a big RPG fan.
The Thorn: Like, video game RPG's, or...like, RPG with dice, can I say?
Chibi: Oh, man. Oh...okay, yeah, I played Dungeons & Dragons in high school. But, yeah, video games, I'm a fan of The Suikoden 1, 2, and I haven't played 3 yet, but, those are probably my 2 favourite video games. As well as, I like Mortal Kombat. I like Street Fighters...I have a lot of video games.
Michael: I like games with a lot of horrific imagery...
Chibi: Oh yeah! Like the Resident Evils and the...
Michael: ...and the Silent Hills
Chibi: Yeah!
Michael: And I'll be really surprised if you've heard of this game. It was like a video game in 1986 that was called Splatter House...
The Thorn: I think it rings familiar, but I'm not sure...
Michael: You're just this guy with like...a Jason mask on, this hockey mask...
The Thorn: Oh god! Yeah! I remember that!
Michael: And you kill these disgusting monsters that just vomit on you and stuff...
The Thorn: Oh, yeah, I remember that!
Michael: It was really cool.
The Thorn: Like, it was just a kill-em-all, wasn't it?
Michael: Yeah. You just splattered...it was Splatter House. You just...splat things, like, really, I got scared playing this game.
The Thorn: Oh, really?
Michael: Yeah, it was really good.
The Thorn: Before the days of surround-sound, and they were really rich and stuff.
Michael: Yeah, it was really rich and really weird. I'd look for that game and just have it in my room and stuff.
Chibi: ...and I'm going to have a pinball machine, and I'm gonna have a borg in my corner...
Michael: ...and a Chuckie Cheese's...
Chibi: ...and a ball slide so I can go down the slide and land in the balls, and, yeah, hi.
The Thorn: Well, yeah, you can dream, and it might happen, you never know. Um, what's the worst album you guys have ever heard?
Chibi: Oh my goodness...
The Thorn: What is the worst album you've ever heard?
Chibi: You know, I'm going to say, for me, it was Guns & Roses' The Spaghetti Incident not because...I don't even know if it was that bad an album because I didn't listen to it more than the once. I was a huge Guns & Roses fan, and The Spaghetti Incident, for me, was just, "Wow, hey guys, what are you doing?" Michael?
Michael: I don't know what I want to say just because I could picture, one day, just having to sit in the airplane next to the...
The Thorn: That bad, eh?
Michael: I don't know...That's a hard one...There's so much bad music out there...
The Thorn: Yeah, but you know, there's always the one album that leaves a bad taste in your mouth were you're like, "Oh, god!"
Chibi: The Spaghetti Incident, I'm telling you...how can you go from Use your Illusion 1 & 2 which, in my opinion, are phenomenal into such a...a...mess. I don't know. I don't know what happened there. See, I'm safe because I really, really like Guns & Roses, which is why it was disappointed comparatively.
The Thorn: So, I guess, we'll play a couple of more tracks, and in this case, I was thinking of going back in time again and playing "Queen of Hearts".
Chibi: Oh, "Queen of Hearts", yeah, that is an old one.
The Thorn: Yeah, which is clearly one of the first things you recorded because it doesn't sound at all what you guys sound today.
Michael: Yeah, that was recorded on a four-track.
The Thorn: And then I'm going to tie that in with "Horror Show", which is the first track I heard from you guys, and it completely turned me onto the band. Like, I heard it on my show, actually, because a friend brought it on and played it. And it was exactly what I needed. It just hit the spot and was exactly what I needed.
Plays "Queen of Hearts" and Horror Show"
The Thorn: So, that was "Horror Show", and that's featured on Nothing & Nowhere, it was also featured on one of your prior EP's.
Chibi: Was it on the Imagica demo?
The Thorn: Let me just look it up...Yeah, it was on the 2001 Imagica EP. "The Birthday massacre", "The Horror Show", "Over", and "Promise Me", was the track listing on it. Not that I have it because it's really, really hard to get by...
Michael: There were only forty. All hand-numbered.
The Thorn: Oh my gosh. Collectors unite!
Chibi: Sometimes, I wonder where they are.
The Thorn: The collector in me is dying right now. So, one for one thing, I wonder, and I guess my answer came through my research, I guess all of you have day jobs. You must work like full-time. You can't devote all your time to this...
Chibi: Right, we're independent, so we have to support ourselves while we're, you know, being a band.
The Thorn: Exactly, how difficult is that to balance the two?
Chibi: Um, you know, it can be really trying, especially when all of us have different schedules, you know, some of us work all night and come home when the other goes to work. All of our free time is devoted to writing and recording.
The Thorn: ...and promotiong.
Chibi: Promoting, practicing for shows, we all do what we can when we can do it, but, a lot of of us have different schedules. So, it's difficult to get all 6 members into a room all at once.
The Thorn: That must make plans for touring really, really difficult, if not almost impossible.
Chibi: You know, it'll just take planning, you know, lots of planning.
Michael: Touring isn't really a problem, as long as there's time to schedule and book the time off of work.
The Thorn: But, you know a small one two-week tour, because a lot of your fans are coming from the US, about 68% of your fans are from the US...
Chibi: Yeah, I mean, we're definetly trying to coordinate some tour plans for the US, like, we've had a lot demand for it from promoters and from fans. Things like that we're definetly going to be looking to coordinating. In terms of all of us taking two weeks off, you know, it'll just take planning.
The Thorn: Good, so there is hope yet. That's great because that's one of the biggest questions that comes up.
Chibi: Oh, definetly.
The Thorn: ...Is when do we get to see them opposed to coming overseas to see them. I've read on some boards that fans are coming to your show on the 31st, right? Some people are actually coming overseas to see you guys!
Chibi: That's like so nice of them to do that, you know, like that's so exciting.
The Thorn: It's not like, "Oh, I've got nothing else to do tonight. I'll just go to the show, auuur." These people are actually making a huge effort to come to see you guys.
Chibi: We'd definetly like to return the favour as soon as possible. We're totally planning on it.
Michael: It's one of our major priorities now, is just to tour.
Chibi: We have a couple of things that are just going on a little bit, y'know, we've got some...
The Thorn: There's been word of a Montreal show...
Chibi: Oh, yeah, we'll definetly play Montreal and, probably, Ottawa.
The Thorn: That'd be nice.
Chibi: As far as the states and stuff, it's something that we're going to do eventually for sure.
The Thorn: What kind of experience has touring been so far? I mean...
Michael: It's been...there's been some rough times just getting around. This one time, we rented a Q-Van...
Chibi: Just, like, your standard U-Haul...
Michael: And, uh, it was all we could scrounge up at the time, so we through all our gear in the back...
Chibi: And we threw a bunch of band members in the back too...
Michael: Just for good measure.
The Thorn: Couldn't fit everyone in the front seat?
Chibi: It seemed like a such good idea at the time. In fact, I volunteered to go in the back because I thought it would be sort of an adventure. There were decks of cards involved, and it was all good until the truck started moving.
Michael: I think there were about five or six of us in the back, and this is in the middle of winter, we're all bundled up, and, about 10 minutes in the ride, the light went off. There we are, freezing, in the dark, in the back of this Q-Van.
Chibi: For the two and a half hours that it was what, I thought it interesting was that we originally sat in a semi-circle to chat, and as the van started to move, we all just sort of lay down, crumpled. It was over...
Michael: I was shivering in fetal position...
Chibi: Yeah, I didn't know whose knee that was in my face, and then, when we got to the venue, I think it was London, Ontario, and they opened the back, they were just terrified, freezing cold.
Michael: We were like the refugees coming off the boat...
Chibi: It's not something that I'd recommend. I'm sure a lot of bands have done that sort of thing. You do it out of desperation, and you do it because it's the most financially sound decision...wow...never again.
Michael: And it's not exactly the most legal thing either...
The Thorn: That's true. Shhhh...
Chibi: And it's not safe! It's not a safe and cozy place to sit for two and a half hours, but anyways...
The Thorn: Bean bags next time, bean bags.
Chibi: Yeah, I know...
Michael: The fun never stops with The Birthday Massacre.
The Thorn: So, I guess at this point, we're going to play a couple of more tracks and close the show. I'm going to play two of my favourites, and one of my favourite tracks "Blue", which was sent to those who preorded the EP, so they got the song early. I think it's mind-blowing. I really, really like it. I'm also going to play "Broken". It's astounding. The three tracks that people like most are "Happy Birthday", "Horror Show", and "To Die For", which is suprises me. I expected "Video Kid" at the top, and I'm surprised "Broken" isn't mentioned because it's such a killer track, like if you play it with a light show, it's crazy. It's the craziest track. I've played that at a DJ gig, and it's so unbelievable.
Plays "Blue" and "Broken"
The Thorn: That was "Broken" by The Birthday Massacre here on "What the...", and that's off of Nothing & Nowhere, which is I guess your very limited edition album which came out a year and a half ago.
Chibi: Yeah, there were only 500 copies of it pressed. We got a lot of people who wanted it, and we simply don't have any more. It's available for download for mp3 download, so people who want it can get it.
The Thorn: And it's a higher quality than people would get on the internet now. I think it's twice the quality.
Chibi: Yeah, it is.
The Thorn: It's a brilliant album, like I've said before. I think I was my #1 album last year, out of 130-140 albums, nothing stood up to this album. So, yeah, people can get it from the website.
Chibi: Yeah, it's thebirthdaymassacre.com, and we have an icon where people can go if they like to buy things. We have shirts. We're going to have the Violet EP, and that's where you can download the high-quality Nothing & Nowhere.
The Thorn: What else? You have t-shirts. Anything for the future?
Chibi: Oh, for sure.
The Thorn: Nothing planned right now? no other Birthday Massacre trading cards with gum or anything.
Chibi: ...that's a good idea!
The Thorn: Wouldn't that be so 80's .
Michael: That would, actually.
Chibi: Yeah, that really hard gum that you totally would break in two...
Michael: I'd totally buy that.
Chibi: Yeah, so would I.
The Thorn: So, the new EP is out tomorrow, and you can get it off your website. And how can people, it's only credit card right now? Can people use money orders?
Chibi: Yeah, you can use money orders or credit cards...
The Thorn: That's awesome because a lot of people don't have credit cards, and they were fighting for one so they could preorder.
Chibi: Oh, yeah, you can use money orders. It will also be available for paid money orders.
Michael: Also, if you live in Canada, you can get your local music store to order it for you.
Chibi: And, of course, we'll have it at our shows for sale too...
Michael: Yeah, I know Nothing & Nowhere was available from HMV for a while, so that's really great. I don't know, is there anything you guys wanted to say before we closed up? I had one last question, actually, what are your favourite Birthday Massacre tracks? Like, if there was one track that you were stuck playing for the rest of your life.
Chibi: For me, I like "Violet". I like "Violet", but I also like "The Dream"...
The Thorn: You're cheating! Michael?
Michael: I like "Violet" as well. I also like "Nevermind". And...uh...
The Thorn: That's it.
Michael: I like "Lover's End" as well.
The Thorn: It's a very good song. It's a really good opening to the EP as a sort of intro track. It blew my mind. When I first downloaded it, it was like, "Nnyeah, it's good," but it's one of my favourites right now just because it's so good. The work on there is brilliant. The other one I really like is "Play Dead" is what we're going to close off with. Is there anything you wanted to say? I mean, people can visit you on nothing&nowhere.com. You've got message board, just your webpage is so worth checking because there's so much...You can spend hours on there.
Michael: We have a very interesting website; go check it out. We have a very active message board, so interact with fans from North America and Europe.
Chibi: Yeah, and say hi because a lot of us are on there pretty frequently too. It's nice to get to chat with people and see what everyone's doing, yeah, and I guess, I'd like to mention that we do have the Violet EP release on July 31. We're going to play with Tepid Lust, which is our friend OE's band and Johnny Hollow, who this will be their first live show, and their website is neat too, and...yeah...
The Thorn: Are tickets only available at the door or online?
Chibi: Yeah, no, you can just come to 360, and I believe it's $10 at the show.
The Thorn: Yeah, it's going to be great. From the messages I've read online, it's going to be packed with people from overseas, and I'd like to thank you very much for all the time you've devoted to this show. It's much appreciated, and I'm really happy to see you guys at the show. I haven't seen you live yet. We'll close with this song from the Violet EP, which is out tomorrow, and this is "Play Dead".
Chibi: Thank you!
Michael: Thank you!
Plays "Play Dead"